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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>scutoid studios</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>8055329</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>Ban, 1 month</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Reasoning:</strong></td> <td>Echoing Jejasa</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>jan Jejasa</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7572082</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>Ban (anything from 1 week to 1 month)</td> </tr> </table> <p><strong>Reasoning:</strong> While I feel sympathy for Ratif due to the hostile and unprompted nature of Arma's initial message, his behaviour is serious enough to warrant more than a warning. By recklessly sending a slur as response, Rat ended up using the r-word towards an autistic person in a hostile manner. Although Ratif is himself autistic, this was regardless inappropriate.</p> <p>In the quarrel that followed, Ratif continued acting immature by sending waves of insults to Arma. This is an equal reason for the disc for me. Arma was indeed the one to begin the argument, but the blame for it cannot be placed solely on either side, as it lasted for 10 messages, any one of which could've been the last had the other party so wanted. When Arma continued messaging Ratif, we escalated their disc from a year to a perma. It seems unjust Ratif doing essentially the same thing is ignored, especially when he used a slur and sent equally hostile messages in response to Arma.</p> <p>To the argument that this was off-site, I point out that we already disced ArmaDoggo heavily for this quarrel, and ArmaDoggo messaged Ratif specifically about Ratif's actions on our site.</p> <p>The argument that banning Ratif won't have an impact due to Ratif having left the site is flawed. This vote is about whether Ratif deserves to be disced for this case. In general, an user's current level of involvement (which may change rapidly) shouldn't impact disc votes. If taken to the extreme, people could avoid bans by leaving before the ban and then coming back when staff decides to not enact it.</p> 
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				<title>Plant&#039;s vote</title>
				<link>https://backrooms-oversight.wikidot.com/forum/t-16752323/disciplinary-vote:ratif#post-6460989</link>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 21:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>jan Jejasa</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7572082</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>Ban (1 month)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Additional Notes:</strong></td> <td>This vote was cast by Plant on the discord. I am posting it here on behalf of him for logging purposes.</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>C-Graph</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7879529</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>Warning.</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Reasoning:</strong></td> <td>While the exchange was about the site, the off-site nature of the Wikidot PMs is enough to make me think that we'd be overreaching with anything harsher. Additionally, the initial message from <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/armadoggo" ><img class="small" src="https://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=8959621&amp;amp;size=small&amp;amp;timestamp=1710772229" alt="ArmaDoggo" style="background-image:url(https://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=8959621)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/armadoggo" >ArmaDoggo</a></span> was unprompted and personal, which at least, even if it went too far, explains the negative reaction.</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>BlueSignet</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7867242</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>At least a warning.</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Reasoning:</strong></td> <td>Let's be honest, how is banning him going to punish him? He posted for canonicon, he's leaving the community anyway. The best we can do is warn him to not act like that.</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2024 22:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Spectre48</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>6247398</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Ban (duration), Kick, Mute, etc.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Reasoning:</strong></td> <td>Abstain</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Additional Notes:</strong></td> <td>I just want to make it clear that I am aware of this vote, but I'm abstaining because I don't want my prior experiences with Rat to make me either harsher or lighter on him than appropriate.</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2024 22:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>Warning.</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Reasoning:</strong></td> <td>I think warn is enough (unless this behavior continues). For now I'll believe in Ratif's ability to avoid these cases in the future</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>DivineAtlas</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>8037742</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <td><strong>Preferred Disciplinary Action:</strong></td> <td>Warning.</td> </tr> <tr> <td><strong>Reasoning:</strong></td> <td>Ratif is no longer staff nor really involved with TS. Yes, they used a slur but we've seen them use it in LA and we never took action before, seems silly to bring that in now. I will agree that they took it too far, hence the warning and telling him to desist the behavior.</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>DISCIPLINARY VOTE: RATIF</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2024 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>C-Graph</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7879529</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>This vote is happening so we can properly decide on <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/r-a-t-i-f" ><img class="small" src="https://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=8095511&amp;amp;size=small&amp;amp;timestamp=1710633792" alt="r a t i f" style="background-image:url(https://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=8095511)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/r-a-t-i-f" >r a t i f</a></span>'s disc length, if any. I trust that everyone voting has read <a href="https://discord.com/channels/1183804982022127636/1217925090164080781">the relevant thread</a> on the interaction between him and <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/armadoggo" ><img class="small" src="https://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=8959621&amp;amp;size=small&amp;amp;timestamp=1710633792" alt="ArmaDoggo" style="background-image:url(https://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=8959621)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/armadoggo" >ArmaDoggo</a></span>, so we can keep it short.</p> <div class="code"> <pre><code>||**Preferred Disciplinary Action:**|| Ban (duration), Kick, Mute, etc.|| ||**Reasoning:**|| Put it here. || ||**Additional Notes:**|| Here. ||</code></pre></div> <p>The vote will a total of two days or until all staff members have voted. Additional time can be granted if need be.</p> <p><iframe src="https://scpwiki.github.io/timer/timer.html?lang=en&amp;time=2024-03-19T00%3A01%3A03.826Z" align="" frameborder="" height="" scrolling="" width="" class="" style="width: 750px; height: 200px; border: 0; text-align: center;"></iframe></p> 
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